College Football Thread

[giles]

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Look at that unsecured ball...just look at it.

 

[Jackalope]

Joe, if Bama beats GA you going to say both should be in playoffs? Lol

Not saying that at all. That's a different argument of "do conf championship losers belong in." some are arguing that division losers that didn't even play their conf championship game belong in.

 

[giles]

Huh?. I'm not sure where you're going with that. If it's about inner conf competition, how many different Big 10 teams have won a national championship in the last 20 years? Now run those numbers for the SEC. That should give you an idea of how the power dynamic fluctuates in the SEC and how from season to season it's an uphill climb. Up until three years ago the only confrence team that OSU really had to not lose to, was itself.

Mostly baiting you. Makes you talk out of both sides of your mouth when this comes up. I enjoy that. You are a stats man, what does OSU look like compared to Iowa?

 

[Jackalope]

Mostly baiting you. Makes you talk out of both sides of your mouth when this comes up. I enjoy that. You are a stats man, what does OSU look like compared to Iowa?

I've remained pretty consistent in my opinion of this.

I haven't watched much Iowa. I guess I'll get a good look on Dec 2nd. (where's coonies green smiley)

But which OSU are you talking about? The OSU that is capable of going 12 plays for 75 yards, or the OSU that went 3 punts, two interceptions, and a missed Field goal. Which equated to 60% of their game possessions?

 

[giles]

I've remained pretty consistent in my opinion of this.

I haven't watched much Iowa. I guess I'll get a good look on Dec 2nd. (where's coonies green smiley)

But which OSU are you talking about? The OSU that is capable of going 12 plays for 75 yards, or the OSU that went 3 punts, two interceptions, and a missed Field goal. Which equated to 60% of their game possessions?

I think we can all agree that the best teams aren't always the ones in the playoffs.

 

[hickslawns]

I've remained pretty consistent in my opinion of this.

I haven't watched much Iowa. I guess I'll get a good look on Dec 2nd. (where's coonies green smiley)

But which OSU are you talking about? The OSU that is capable of going 12 plays for 75 yards, or the OSU that went 3 punts, two interceptions, and a missed Field goal. Which equated to 60% of their game possessions?

When you put it that way. . . And still a great shot at winning with 34 seconds to go. . . I guess UM sucks too. All the Big10 sucks.

 

[Jackalope]

I think we can all agree that the best teams aren't always the ones in the playoffs.

I agree with that. Sometimes team's shit the bed at the wrong time. And sometimes it lines up so that two great team's will play an in season or conf championship game and one will eliminate the other. But that also doesn't mean we should expand or adapt the structure so certain teams get in either.

 

[Jackalope]

When you put it that way. . . And still a great shot at winning with 34 seconds to go. . . I guess UM sucks too. All the Big10 sucks.

Well lets compare. Both teams had 10 possessions. Let's remove the one where UM went victory formation to end it, so 9 for UM.

OSU went three punts, two interceptions and a missed FG. That's 6 possessions that didn't result in points. UM had 9 possessions and also had three punts. All other possessions led to points. The lesson to be learned is, in critical games every possession counts and you can't miss field goals and turn the ball over.

 

[hickslawns]

Well lets compare. Both teams had 10 possessions. Let's remove the one where UM went victory formation to end it, so 9 for UM.

OSU went three punts, two interceptions and a missed FG. That's 6 possessions that didn't result in points. UM had 9 possessions and also had three punts. All other possessions led to points. The lesson to be learned is, in critical games every possession counts and you can't miss field goals and turn the ball over.

That is clear. Got to put up points. Preferably TDs. If OSU doesn't deserve to be in and UM barely squeezed out a win. . . . Then they must not have a shot either.

I'm using "Joe play off logic". Some of your scenarios can be a stretch. I say this all.im good fun. Not ripping on you. Some of your logic over the years I try to follow and it's a bit far fetched. (As Joe continues to poke the unsuspecting fans who are still being emotional about their team. )

I still stand by putting the undefeated teams in. Take the one loss teams in the top ten in a hat and draw for the remaining positions. Most of them have really squeezed out some close ones. Buckeyes didn't have to win any in the final seconds, but several games they didn't pull away until the last quarter.

 

[finelyshedded]

Better argument than what the Buckeyes have. If we played UM again in our conference championship game and won. . . There could be an argument for both teams getting in.

That was my point Phil, yesterday’s game woulda been the conference championship if they just went with the top two best record in the conference and not a lopsided top two division leaders. How does a 3 loss team even get a chance to be crowned conference champs over two programs who were undefeated going into the last game in their division?!?! Should never happen. IMO

 

[Jackalope]

(As Joe continues to poke the unsuspecting fans who are still being emotional about their team. )

 

[Jackalope]

That was my point Phil, yesterday’s game woulda been the conference championship if they just went with the top two best record in the conference and not a lopsided top two division leaders. How does a 3 loss team even get a chance to be crowned conference champs over two programs who were undefeated going into the last game in their division?!?! Should never happen. IMO

Such is the life of how divisions and conferences work. They don't have to like it, they just have to not suck when it counts. The buckeyes knew what was on the line when they took the field yesterday.

 

[Jackalope]

If OSU doesn't deserve to be in and UM barely squeezed out a win. . . . Then they must not have a shot either.

Don't confuse "deserving" with "earning". There have been plenty of deserving teams over the years that ended up playing a new year's eve bowl because they didn't earn a playoff spot. Losing the division and not even playing in the conf title game isn't earning.

 

[Gern186]

Well Joe you gotta be feeling real good after 2 quarters against Georgia. Go Alabama!

 

[Gern186]

Bama fans chewing their fingernails hard right now

 

[Jackalope]

Well Joe you gotta be feeling real good after 2 quarters against Georgia. Go Alabama!

Freaking nuts! I should have known better than to count out the goat! I would have lost a boatload of money if I put a bet in that game. Wow!

 

[hickslawns]

Pretty good argument for Bama getting into the playoffs. As many scares as Bama had this year they pulled this one off? Georgia had some scares too. Including Georgia Tech. Going to be interesting to see who makes it. Both of them? Bama only?

 

[Gern186]

Alot of possibilities now

 

[5Cent]

Fuggin Bama...

 

[hickslawns]

Fuggin Bama...

They have a way of pulling a win out of their butt. Been doing it for years. Luck? Coaching? Saban sold his soul to the devil? I don't know but I'll give them the credit they deserve. They can pull off some tight ones.