does ohio have a deer density map?
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Hahahah. You're funny if you think the ODNR has any clue as to the live population of deer. They manage purely on the number of dead ones. If the yearly harvest in a county is up they assume the population is growing. If it decreases they assume it's falling. There's so much that's flawed with that logic it isn't funny but thats how Tonk told us they do it.
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I never said I thought it was accurate, just curious if they produce one. I would be interested in seeing what they estimate DPSM number are, vs what hunters in area think they are.
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Doesn't exist from what I've seen. The only thing they have and do not publish is target population numbers for each county. They will not give a definitive answer as to how they came to that target population number. Or how they calculated the current population number. Only that the target population is x and they want the yearly harvest number to be Y.
I wouldn't want such map anyways. People would flood the areas with higher numbers and wipe them out.
At times they would count deer by aerial surveys with snow on the ground, of course the data was "top secret". This was back when the "State Hoopies" would use state planes for ticketing speeders.
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Which as you know is snake oil. All we have to do is look at areas of wilderness where hunting pressure is light to nonexistent and animals are allowed to breed completely unmanaged. These areas consistently produce some of the biggest trophy class animals. Now look at somewhere like Mississippi which has vast vast areas of wilderness. They don't produce such animals because they also have a ton of hunters and are allowed three bucks. The only way "quality over Quantity" works is is you severely limit the buck tags. Take your trophy elk locations for instance. It'll take you 20 years to draw a bull tag but a cow tag is over the counter. They keep the population low by killing cows. But they also massively restrict bull harvests so they can grow record bulls. This is impossible if your an over the counter buck tag state. All you're going to end up with is fewer deer across the board to include bucks. And the bucks you have will not reach trophy age because you have the same number of hunters killing from a far smaller population. All it takes is a look at the OBBBC books since 2010 to see that's the truth.
I'm gonna need you to calm down with all that thinking shit. We don't have the mental capacity here in Ohio for all that...lol
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Not at the ODNR anyways. All the thinking is done by accountants at farmers and nationwide.
Not accountants, its the ACTUARIES that make the big bucks at the insurance companies like Farmers, Nationwide, Grange, Progressive, Allstate, State Farm, and the rotten ******** at CNA. ACTUARIES play with statistics guessing the number of deer collisions. I forgot GEICO!
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I hate those smart, money making, math loving virgins! Maybe I should have spent more time working on algebra than the the ball field.
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Chad and I are going to Missouri in November. There's a state that has their shit together. Or so it seems as an outsider. Some great resources to use including a map detailing harvest by county. Makes it nice for picking high density areas, or areas with higher/lower buck harvests.
Yep, I'm pretty impressed with what I've been seeing from Missouri's DNR online.
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are you two really doing a trip? I am excited to hear about it if this is true! That'll be awesome best of luck!