CCW for the wife

[Floki]

After watching the video,I bought my wife one of these!! I personally think it would be a great gun for her.

 

[cotty16]

My wife carries a .380

She seems to be comfortable with it.

 

["J"]

I play the odds.
Odds are she’ll never need.
Odds are if she does need it, when she pulls it out they’re back away.
Odds are if they don’t, they’ll have lead flying their way.
Odds are they’ll get hit
Odds are after they get hit they’ll back off....

Get her whatever she’s comfortable using and it’s more of a piece of mind that she’s more protected with it, then without it.

 

[Jackalope]

I would caution against a revolver. They have the simplicity of action in their favor yes. But they have a lot of things against them. The long double action trigger pull is challenging to be fast and accurate with. The limited capacity is a hindrance against someone who is chemically enhanced or against multiple threats. Running lightweight loads decreases felt recoil but also dereases effectiveness.

yeah but the same argument could be made for a lot of pistols. A 50 AE is better than a 45, a 9mm is faster than a 45, 9mm high cap vs a 9/11 45, or 38+p over a 380. The options are endless each with positives and negatives.. In a 38spl A 110gr HP @ 1000 FPS isn't much different than a + P 130gr at 1197 fps. and not much different than a 9mm with 115 gr at 1180 fps.. What matters most is the thing goes boom and it pokes a hole in a bad guy.

 

[Sgt Fury]

I play the odds.
Odds are she’ll never need.
Odds are if she does need it, when she pulls it out they’re back away.
Odds are if they don’t, they’ll have lead flying their way.
Odds are they’ll get hit
Odds are after they get hit they’ll back off....

Get her whatever she’s comfortable using and it’s more of a piece of mind that she’s more protected with it, then without it.

Most important thing is that when she pulls it out, she better be willing to use it. Worse thing that can happen is if the bad guy gets his hands on her gun.

 

[Big H]

My wife might have a few weapons. Let's just say she likes guns and the first time I took her to the cabin to shoot, I knew she had her concealed carry, but really had no idea. The backpack she brought that I thought was a S&W Shield and some ammo, happened to have several other SW M& P 9's, one with a laser, along with a Sig .380 and another .380. When I asked her how many guns she needed, she told me that she didn't know you could have TOO many!! LOL That being said, her favorite is the SW Shield, but she has really been eyeing up the Kimber Micro 9, which I am sure she will have before TOO long. Oh, I forgot to mention that she likes knives TOO and actually took a defensive knife fighting class a few years ago. I got her a VIPER- TEC OTF tactical knife for her birthday this year and that went over better than any kind of jewelry!

 

[Jackalope]

she has really been eyeing up the Kimber Micro 9,

I carry the Micro 380 and love the damn thing.

 

["J"]

Most important thing is that when she pulls it out, she better be willing to use it. Worse thing that can happen is if the bad guy gets his hands on her gun.

My wife pulls a gun? She’s using that gun until it’s empty.... Then she’ll beat the shit outta them with it empty

 

[Clay Showalter]

I carry the Micro 380 and love the damn thing.

I carry the kimber micro 380, awesome shooting gun, looks bad ass also.

 

[jagermeister]

I would caution against a revolver. They have the simplicity of action in their favor yes. But they have a lot of things against them. The long double action trigger pull is challenging to be fast and accurate with. The limited capacity is a hindrance against someone who is chemically enhanced or against multiple threats. Running lightweight loads decreases felt recoil but also dereases effectiveness.
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Let’s face it, most women do not shoot or have the same “skill” with a firearm as most men. Not trying to sound sexist, it’s just reality. So for most women, a slow long trigger pull isn’t going to make them any worse with their “speed and accuracy,” or ability to engage multiple threats. For most women, simply having the ability to make a gun go BANG in the general proximity of a bad guy is enough to get the point across. Not ALL women, but likely most. Just getting them comfortable enough to carry a gun with them and feel comfortable with it is a victory in itself. The average wife or girlfriend isn’t going to say, “this revolver is nice, but I’d be much faster and deadlier with this Glock 19.”

 

[Sgt Fury]

Let’s face it, most women do not shoot or have the same “skill” with a firearm as most men. Not trying to sound sexist, it’s just reality. So for most women, a slow long trigger pull isn’t going to make them any worse with their “speed and accuracy,” or ability to engage multiple threats. For most women, simply having the ability to make a gun go BANG in the general proximity of a bad guy is enough to get the point across. Not ALL women, but likely most. Just getting them comfortable enough to carry a gun with them and feel comfortable with it is a victory in itself. The average wife or girlfriend isn’t going to say, “this revolver is nice, but I’d be much faster and deadlier with this Glock 19.”

Most women don’t have the skill but there are some out there who have more skill then most men. When I was in basic training at Ft. McClellan, Alabama way back in 1982, there was a black female who to this day is the best shot with a handgun that I’ve ever seen. When we qualified with our handgun, I put all 50 in the target with a .45, while this small petite black woman put all 50 rounds into an area about the size of a tennis ball using a .38 revolver. Her name is SSGT Stuckey. She made such an impression that I remember her name after all of these years. I wouldn’t want her to shoot at me...that’s for sure!

 

[jagermeister]

Most women don’t have the skill but there are some out there who have more skill then most men. When I was in basic training at Ft. McClellan, Alabama way back in 1982, there was a black female who to this day is the best shot with a handgun that I’ve ever seen. When we qualified with our handgun, I put all 50 in the target with a .45, while this small petite black woman put all 50 rounds into an area about the size of a tennis ball using a .38 revolver. Her name is SSGT Stuckey. She made such an impression that I remember her name after all of these years. I wouldn’t want her to shoot at me...that’s for sure!

Well yea, there are always exceptions of course. Heck, these days, there are probably some women who have a bigger dick than most men.

 

[Hedgelj]

Let’s face it, most women do not shoot or have the same “skill” with a firearm as most men. Not trying to sound sexist, it’s just reality. So for most women, a slow long trigger pull isn’t going to make them any worse with their “speed and accuracy,” or ability to engage multiple threats. For most women, simply having the ability to make a gun go BANG in the general proximity of a bad guy is enough to get the point across. Not ALL women, but likely most. Just getting them comfortable enough to carry a gun with them and feel comfortable with it is a victory in itself. The average wife or girlfriend isn’t going to say, “this revolver is nice, but I’d be much faster and deadlier with this Glock 19.”

Your idea of self defense with a concealed handgun and mine are apparently light years apart. I will agree that the shooting sports are more male oriented but there is an entire market aspect dedicated to the female shooter.

Making a gun go bang in the proximity of the bad guy. So much wrong in this statement. 1.)There is a lawyer attached to every bullet you fire in a self defense situation. So where did that "proiximal" bullet go? Did it hit a bystander? Impact a building? Kill a child? 2.) If your gun clears leather/kydex its there to stop a threat with deadly force, what you described is tantamount a warning shot which is illegal.

Not to mention that she should have the knowledge and skill that she knows she can hit what she's amining at every time. Otherwise she's not going to pull it except under great relecutance and without the confidence to use it. Setting her up for a bad conclusion to the scenario.

How many law enforcement carry a long double action trigger pull revolver as their primary weapon? How many carry a DA/SA? How many carry a striker fire? Lets look at why next. Yes cost has something into play. But a 9mm (unless you reload) is one of the most cost efficient rounds to buy for practicing. The recoil impulse is much more manageable (even with training) than the other calibers. The stopping power with modern hollowpoint ammunition is comparable. You get more rounds in a similarly sized firearm. Heck even our armed forces which are switching away from a DA/SA (think long heavy first trigger pull) to a striker fire for their carry. I can also tell you that our special forces and black ops type guys are/were carrying glocks for quite some time. There's a reason for all this.

Now if you can follow the hints of modern law enforcement and our military why would you not give your wife every benefit you can between a firearm and the training so that on the day she has to use it, she has the best odds of coming back to you.

How much training have you or do you continue to do with your concealed carry piece? Lets think back to the church shooting a few months ago. Which of those armed church members will you be?The guy who flubbs his drawstroke and gets shot in the head? or the guy who actually has practiced beyond a random day at the range who draws will skill, efficiency and has the skill to hit a moving headshot at what Ithink was 10-15 yards under pressure? If you're going to carry then train so you're not a liability. We revert to our level of training under stress, so what level is that?

I believe (strongly as you may have picked up on) that carrying for self defense is not just having a gun on me. Its having the mindset and the training that if the day comes that I need it, I will be able to save myself (and family) from the threat. I continue to train to get better, more efficient. So until someone is ready to carry and be able to skillfully defend themselves with it, carrying a firearm is just that, its not a magic talisman. Not to mention carrying without training or the ability to engage a threat without endangering everyone around them is almost worse.

 

[Sgt Fury]

Well yea, there are always exceptions of course. Heck, these days, there are probably some women who have a bigger dick than most men.

I wouldn’t want “her” to be shooting at me either!

 

[Big H]

Kristi has taken several of the IDPA classes and really enjoyed them. Real life situations.

 

[Big_Holla]

Well yea, there are always exceptions of course. Heck, these days, there are probably some women who have a bigger dick than most men.

I wouldn’t want “her” to be shooting at me either!

I didn't know Michelle Obama could shoot?!

 

["J"]

Your idea of self defense with a concealed handgun and mine are apparently light years apart. I will agree that the shooting sports are more male oriented but there is an entire market aspect dedicated to the female shooter.

Making a gun go bang in the proximity of the bad guy. So much wrong in this statement. 1.)There is a lawyer attached to every bullet you fire in a self defense situation. So where did that "proiximal" bullet go? Did it hit a bystander? Impact a building? Kill a child? 2.) If your gun clears leather/kydex its there to stop a threat with deadly force, what you described is tantamount a warning shot which is illegal.

Not to mention that she should have the knowledge and skill that she knows she can hit what she's amining at every time. Otherwise she's not going to pull it except under great relecutance and without the confidence to use it. Setting her up for a bad conclusion to the scenario.

How many law enforcement carry a long double action trigger pull revolver as their primary weapon? How many carry a DA/SA? How many carry a striker fire? Lets look at why next. Yes cost has something into play. But a 9mm (unless you reload) is one of the most cost efficient rounds to buy for practicing. The recoil impulse is much more manageable (even with training) than the other calibers. The stopping power with modern hollowpoint ammunition is comparable. You get more rounds in a similarly sized firearm. Heck even our armed forces which are switching away from a DA/SA (think long heavy first trigger pull) to a striker fire for their carry. I can also tell you that our special forces and black ops type guys are/were carrying glocks for quite some time. There's a reason for all this.

Now if you can follow the hints of modern law enforcement and our military why would you not give your wife every benefit you can between a firearm and the training so that on the day she has to use it, she has the best odds of coming back to you.

How much training have you or do you continue to do with your concealed carry piece? Lets think back to the church shooting a few months ago. Which of those armed church members will you be?The guy who flubbs his drawstroke and gets shot in the head? or the guy who actually has practiced beyond a random day at the range who draws will skill, efficiency and has the skill to hit a moving headshot at what Ithink was 10-15 yards under pressure? If you're going to carry then train so you're not a liability. We revert to our level of training under stress, so what level is that?

I believe (strongly as you may have picked up on) that carrying for self defense is not just having a gun on me. Its having the mindset and the training that if the day comes that I need it, I will be able to save myself (and family) from the threat. I continue to train to get better, more efficient. So until someone is ready to carry and be able to skillfully defend themselves with it, carrying a firearm is just that, its not a magic talisman. Not to mention carrying without training or the ability to engage a threat without endangering everyone around them is almost worse.

Look at the statistics of the number of rounds shot and the percentage of hits that law enforcement (and military for that matter) get while in a heat of the moment encounter.... I get what you’re saying but the practicality of it isn’t going too happen. We all like too think we could handle that kind of situation but in reality most would be less accurate the the average law enforcement in the same situation.

 

[Hedgelj]

Look at the statistics of the number of rounds shot and the percentage of hits that law enforcement (and military for that matter) get while in a heat of the moment encounter.... I get what you’re saying but the practicality of it isn’t going too happen. We all like too think we could handle that kind of situation but in reality most would be less accurate the the average law enforcement in the same situation.

I know a few LEO trainers. The average officer is allocated very few rounds a hard for training. A few boxes at most.

We can and should do better. It's part of the responsibility of caring a gun imo.

Also, the most eggrarious offenders of LEO who can't hit the target are in NY where they are mandated to have an EXTRA heavy trigger pull. Increasing it from 5 to 8lbs. Another example of long heavy triggers leading to inaccuracy.

 

[giles]

Get her confident first. Then you can deal with the rest. Her WANTING to shot and carry will drive her if you support her. Caliber and gun will depend on HER!

We can train and train, fight or flight is real and you can’t train for that moment.

 

["J"]

I know a few LEO trainers. The average officer is allocated very few rounds a hard for training. A few boxes at most.

We can and should do better. It's part of the responsibility of caring a gun imo.

Also, the most eggrarious offenders of LEO who can't hit the target are in NY where they are mandated to have an EXTRA heavy trigger pull. Increasing it from 5 to 8lbs. Another example of long heavy triggers leading to inaccuracy.

Just because they’re not issued the rounds doesn’t mean they shouldn’t shoot on their own, especially after the post you made that I first responded too. They more so then anyone have the most too lose. My sil and daughter both shoot a lot. He doesn’t rely on the city to furnish his rounds for practice.