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triple_duece

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Is it possible to overtrain your dog? The end result was a dog with obedience and command. The other end result was a dog with rebellion against thy Master(s) especially at days end. Thoughts from the Dog Whispers? A Good dog was not the Best dog in this case. [emoji190]

First sorry to hear of having to put the dog down. I’m no dog whisperer but, breeds have genetic traits. Or things are trained or allowed to grow. Sounds like the dog was the alpha one in the family. You can overcome it or allow it. Some breeds will most be aggressive and very hard to combat. For instance Pit bulls, yes there is a low percentage that won’t hurt a fly but the majority will kill. All dogs will bite and should never be trusted 100%. Once the dog does show aggressive behavior it should NEVER be trusted. Dogs will bite out of fear, drive or temperament. Hounds usually are not bitters, but are a pack type dog but also has a determined pecking order in rank structure. You might say she was the only dog and what structure you talking about. Your family is the rank structure. When you let a dog become dominate over someone, it’s rank structure increases. As time goes the dog rules over most or all if allowed. They are animals, if you let them be the alpha in the house you get what the dog deems appropriate in its eyes.
 

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Is it possible to overtrain your dog? The end result was a dog with obedience and command. The other end result was a dog with rebellion against thy Master(s) especially at days end. Thoughts from the Dog Whispers? A Good dog was not the Best dog in this case. 🐶
I don’t think it was a overtraining issue more than just not being wired right....
 
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Jamie

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Is it possible to overtrain your dog? The end result was a dog with obedience and command. The other end result was a dog with rebellion against thy Master(s) especially at days end. Thoughts from the Dog Whispers? A Good dog was not the Best dog in this case. 🐶

sorry they had to put the dog down. that is really tough. I doubt that you can overtrain a dog, but I'm sure it's possible to unwittingly improperly train a dog. not suggesting that's what happened to this dog. dogs are all individuals, and just like people, some of them are just a special kind of crazy. damaged goods. no amount or type of training can fix some dogs.
 

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My parents have had beagles from 1968-2020. I believe today was their last pet day. “Crazy” Maisy did send my father to the ER recently for bite care. My parents had a council of vets to help them make their final decision. Even spent time with an animal behavior doctor to the tune of $600 for 2 hours. (I know what I want to be when I grow up.) No rescue homes would accept a 9 time biter. Today was a sad day for a 50+ year beagle family.
 

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My parents have had beagles from 1968-2020. I believe today was their last pet day. “Crazy” Maisy did send my father to the ER recently for bite care. My parents had a council of vets to help them make their final decision. Even spent time with an animal behavior doctor to the tune of $600 for 2 hours. (I know what I want to be when I grow up.) No rescue homes would accept a 9 time biter. Today was a sad day for a 50+ year beagle family.
As a guy who’s had beagles for 30 years, I feel their pain. I’ve never had one bite me. I know what would have happened too it if it did. I won’t put up with a dog attack no matter how much I cared about it. But I guess it’s too say when I’ve never dealt with it.
Never had any issues with biting dogs. Even the nonworking dogs. Have known a few folks who’d dealt with it and all those dogs had the “weren’t wired right” issues. Most were rescue dogs who’d had lots of issues along the way.
My daughter and SIL have had too foster a couple dogs over the last couple years and they’d have issues as well but it was more separation anxiety and crate issues vs biting. I’m of the mentality of once it bites, it’ll continue too do so. I might be wrong but not from what I’ve experienced so far.
 

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I would agree J. It seems once a bite of thy Master(s) then the dog feels empowered. My mother was bit in the back of the ankle a few weeks back while bending over in the pantry sorting canned goods. “Crazy Maisy”!....A cat has 9 lives....I guess a dog in this case had 9 chances. Lemon Law.
 

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That’s a bummer Ben. Some dogs have a dominant temperament, always wanting to be the alpha. Betty is that way. It can be a pain in the ass sometimes, but that temperament is IMO what helps her be so fierce and confident when hunting, doing things most female dogs won’t do. But... and it’s a big but... she is NOT the alpha around our household. And she knows it. It is understood. Now, bring a strange dog over to the house, and she will immediately size it up and express her dominance. There may even be some snarling and snapping for a minute. But that’s typically where it ends. Dogs like that have to be put in their place around the house. They aren’t always wired different... sometimes it’s just the way they are and the training needs to be tailored to that characteristic. More often than not, the dominant type dogs are very independent self-thinkers, usually requiring extra effort to have rock solid obedience. Your parents’ dog winning all those obedience competition awards leads me to believe it wasn’t a dominance issue and but more likely a “few screws loose” issue.
 

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The “screws loose” have been relieve from my 74 year old parents. I feel for them as the beagle was the most obedient in my 49 years. They just got a bad apple I believe. It’s not the way to leave your final dog ownership. I volunteered them to borrow my retired, injured back (jumped off the bed), deer tracking “Lover Boy” whenever they need a companion. Boy Dog has been vet cleared to make some baby trackers if I wish to do so. I recently found him a female down the road from Deer Camp. We shall see...
 

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Sorry to hear about their beagle. Not sure I've ever seen a beagle who was a biter. Good to hear your pooch is doing better. I was wondering about that.

Otis got some serious Jeep time today. I had 3 stops to make in 3 different towns. None included interacting with customers. Doors off and back window rolled up, he chilled the whole time. Sucked down a bottle of water at the last stop. Didn't take any pics. He has been the most traveling dog we have ever had.

@MoonLab I hope your date. . . with a girl. . . went well.:cool: