I don't have anywhere where I see a lot of does, if I see multiple doe groups on a hunt I consider myself fortunate. The only folks seeing large doe numbers hunt large property with little hunting pressure.
ohio mossy oak
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What if you own land an your a non res??They pay taxs dont they? The fact that you are not willing to pay a extra 10 or 20$ for a license but your willing to make a non res pay 125 to 150$ more is pretty greedy IMO ..Your want extra revenue for land acquisition and educational efforts. But your not willing to chip in a LITTLE extra to benefit our beloved sports for years to come?..
If antler restrictions were put on I would say those same restrictions would not apply to youth hunters or senior citizen hunters.
Killing 6 deer is just ridiculous. That's all I have to say about that.
Killing 6 deer is just ridiculous. That's all I have to say about that.
You're barking up the wrong tree right now dude. I'm gonna bow out right now before I tear in to this/you. Putting words in my mouth and making blanket statements like the last one are a sure fire way to piss me off. So job well done.
And aren't you a resident?!? Jesus. It sounds like you live in Michigan...
ohio mossy oak
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Thats fine...I hope the OTHER 4 OR 5 ppl complaining about NR fees will continue the topic on the new thread..Sorry for the off topic discussion
Single shot guns. I wonder how many deer die a year from the guy that pulls the trigger as fast as he can. One shot most would take there time.
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99% of the originals posters discussion was in regards to the dwindling deer numbers. Even providing stats as to the decline.. It is only logical he was asking for what changes one would recommend to the dnr in order to reverse said decline. Increasing nr fees or reducing the number of nr hunters will have little to no impact on doe population numbers. They are such a small subset of hunters their harvest is minute compared to the residents..
The topic was getting shifted from a discussion on what changes could be made to increase deer numbers.... To one complaining about nr hunter fees.. A completely diferent topic... Now if the op had started discussing harvest stats for res vs nr and asked what could be done about that then I would agree. But the intended topic looked pretty obvious to me.
My buddy killed a doe on opening day, his first. That may be the last doe we kill for a while. We only took one off their last year as well. The coyotes are definitely hurting us IMO. I have pics of on big male yote checking my corn like a buck checks scrapes. He's 50+ pounds easy and you know he could do some damage.
I'll be giving it my best efforts this winter to kill some yotes. The deer could use the back up!!!
Oh, and in regard to that...
How about a bounty on coyotes? $5-10 a head. Need to find a way to support it financially, but that would help deer numbers IMO...
How about a bounty on coyotes? $5-10 a head. Need to find a way to support it financially, but that would help deer numbers IMO...
We didn't take a single doe last year on our 100+ acre property. I don't know how many the neighbors adjoining us took........ I read in a magazine a while back (maybe qdma mag??) to increase the deer pop on your property take 1 or less doe per 100 acres. To maintain the deer pop harvest 2-3 doe per 100 acres and to decrease the deer pop take 4 or more doe per 100 acres. This all varies from property to property. The most we ever take on our property in one year (doe) is 3. We hahve never taken more than 3 doe a year and most years we take 1 or less.
This year we had planned to take 1 or 2 doe during gun season since we didn't take any last year. The food plots are getting hammered and are basically eaten down to the ground which indicates to me heavy browsing. The corn (150#) is only lasting 7-10 days in the feeders. Pics are showing as many as 4-5 different doe at one time in the food plots and feeders.
Have your does remained grouped together the past couple of weeks? Are you seeing fawns with does still or fawn grouped up?
I ask because I have pictures of fawns running together, then 5 does by themselves with no fawns. It's the strangest thing I've seen and it has all been largely nocturnal...
400 acre property with no does taken in 5 years and I only have seen/pics of 4 does....period.
I like the idea of managing it by smaller sector or county. No way should sub 2k kill counties still be at 6 a year per person.
Beentown
I like the idea of managing it by smaller sector or county. No way should sub 2k kill counties still be at 6 a year per person.
Beentown
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Archertl
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ohio res deer tags are higher than the most of the sorounding states. so no. never mind jesse got it spot on.
im not a fan of earn a buck. it does very little to lower the doe pop because most res hunters kill at least one doe anyway. it would also hinder out of state hunters.
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