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Proposed Fee Increases

Quantum673

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Not sure if this is new news or not. Just saw it on Greene County Fish & Game Facebook page.

Looks like resident fees will go up $5.
Non-resident will go up as well and they want to add a first time non resident fee.

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Jackalope

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These are just proposals at this time.
Yep. Proposals that even if passed can be struck dead with the stroke of a pen from the governor who opposes it and says it's just a tax increase mascarading as a fee.

I don't disagree with him. This is nothing more than the DOW trying to make up for lost revenue after decimating the deer population. If the deer population was at 2008 levels its likely they wouldn't have budget problems, or at a minimum the problems would be a lot smaller. . Killing 80k less deer per year sure does kick your revenue stream in the dick.
 

Buckmaster

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If the deer population was at 2008 levels its likely they wouldn't have budget problems, or at a minimum the problems would be a lot smaller. . Killing 80k less deer per year sure does kick your revenue stream in the dick.

...so the moral of the story is....we get to pay more; for less.
 

Bigslam51

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So we pay more to fund things not even related to fishing or hunting. Did I read that right?
Because of funding shortages, there is no wildlife officer cadet class planned, even though the Lake Erie law enforcement force is down two officers and several of Ohio’s counties currently are without a wildlife officer (game warden).

Straight from the article. Attention to detail, Dave.
 

Bigslam51

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Did you read the second half of the article? The "consider this" section. That's the section I was referring to.
Yes and I don't know what you're talking about. It's referring to the odnr opposing the license fee increase, not the sportsman.
 

giles

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Yes and I don't know what you're talking about. It's referring to the odnr opposing the license fee increase, not the sportsman.

Correct. So the way I read that is the ODNR doesn't want the increase due to other hands dipping into the pot.

In other words, the increases wouldn't help the sportsman.

Am I the only one seeing it this way? Am I wrong?
 

Bigslam51

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Correct. So the way I read that is the ODNR doesn't want the increase due to other hands dipping into the pot.

In other words, the increases wouldn't help the sportsman.

Am I the only one seeing it this way? Am I wrong?
The odnr wants to steal from the Dow is how I'm reading it. Two different divisions.
 

killbucks22

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This might be a dumb question but what's the difference between the two divisions? I'm with Joe though! It's not our fault they don't know how to budget the money! Don't make us pay more bc of their financial difficulties! Make the fuggers in charge take paycuts and see how they feel about money taken away from them! Just like what they want to do with us!
 

Jackalope

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Correct. So the way I read that is the ODNR doesn't want the increase due to other hands dipping into the pot.

In other words, the increases wouldn't help the sportsman.

Am I the only one seeing it this way? Am I wrong?
Not technically. The ODOW is a subordinate organisation under the ODNR. The ODOW wants the fee increases, their boss the ODNR said no you need to make cuts and learn to operate within your budget. And If you can't manage your orgnisation effectively then we will absorb you into the DNR. The ODNRs stance is the ODOWs budget is fine they need to look for cuts and optimize their operations, the ODOW has historical proof that a raise in fees results in a drop in sales. In short people quit hunting and fishing. At a time when both are at their lows raising fees and running people off is not a good business plan. The ODNR wants the ODOW to keep the fees the same and work on attracting more sportsmen to increase sales. However as we have seen through the ODNRS effort to decimate the deer population they could really give a crap less about offering a better product to sportsmen. Instead they would rather reduce deer harvest numbers by 30% and then charge you more for the remaining 70% to make up for the loss, which is exactly what they're doing. Appease the insurance companies by reducing the deer population, raise fees on sportsmen to make up for the loss in revenue.

The ODOW set about on a mission to cry to anyone that would listen about it and spreading doom and gloom rumors about how the ODNR wanted to steal the Sportsman's money. They also set about reducing the things they knew people would care about like Warden school to grab headlines and poor mouth their agenda.