CWD in Ohio....

[Bigcountry40]

I think CWD is some very bad shit. To say it dose not kill as many deer is not completely true, Because when it is found to be in an area. The DNR makes sure that the deer herd in the area and the surrounding areas are decimated.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...4---,00.html&usg=AOvVaw3xt9wtV9mY8eyGxGX0QktL

It all started when someone called the DNR and told them there was a sick deer on there property. That deer was killed and tested. It was found to have CWD. The DNR then had people kill a lot of deer in the immediate area and found more with CWD. The following year they put this area into a special zone. A zone where you could get unlimited tags. And every deer had to be taken in for testing. They found many deer to be positive with CWD and many have not been tested yet. Some deer were from the next counties over. The zone is now 6 counties I believe.
The question is, Will this area ever be CWD free. I don't think so. Its in the ground. Its in the plants that grow in this ground. The deer eat the plants and can get it.
The scary thing is that there is so much unknown when it comes to CWD. And i wouldn't be surprised if it was found in Ohio. This is why anyone who hunts out of state must dispose of any animal parts in the trash and not out in the wild.

I see a lot of people bashing deer farms. If you look at the facts, Deer farms actually have less CWD infected deer then there is in the wild. The reason that you see farms with CWD is only because there required to test for it. Ive done a lot of reading on deer farms and CWD and I don't believe they are the problem. Sure some farms break the rules and transport deer from state to state but most deer farms are on the level. And follow the rules.
I see a lot of rules changing in the years ahead because of CWD. And I believe they should. CWD is much worse the ehd imo.

I have read up on contamination and do not really understand it, from what I have read basically cwd is invincible, if Ohio ever gets it bad I think I'm done deer hunting for a while. I bone out my own deer and do not have garbage pick up, I basically throw the bones and scraps out back next to the creek. Government and regulation already rule my life too much. If it ever gets to the point I can't throw my bones out next to the creek on the back 40 I'm retiring.

 

[motorbreaker]

I have read up on contamination and do not really understand it, from what I have read basically cwd is invincible, if Ohio ever gets it bad I think I'm done deer hunting for a while. I bone out my own deer and do not have garbage pick up, I basically throw the bones and scraps out back next to the creek. Government and regulation already rule my life too much. If it ever gets to the point I can't throw my bones out next to the creek on the back 40 I'm retiring.

It is highly possible that if a deer has CWD you wont know it. They don't always show signs of having it. That's why you should never dump deer parts into the wild. Even worse is to dump parts outside the area they were taken from.
My advice to you is dig a deep hole and dump your deer parts in it. That would be much better then dumping them on top of the ground. If we as hunters don't help to nip this in the butt were gonna be screwed in time.
I don't know if you read any of the info in the link I posted but if you did you can surley see all the bs that CWD causes.

 

[Mike]

http://ohiodnr.gov/news/post/odnr-c...-s-deer-herd-for-chronic-wasting-disease-2017

 

[Bigcountry40]

It is highly possible that if a deer has CWD you wont know it. They don't always show signs of having it. That's why you should never dump deer parts into the wild. Even worse is to dump parts outside the area they were taken from.
My advice to you is dig a deep hole and dump your deer parts in it. That would be much better then dumping them on top of the ground. If we as hunters don't help to nip this in the butt were gonna be screwed in time.
I don't know if you read any of the info in the link I posted but if you did you can surley see all the bs that CWD causes.

I also let my chickens pick the bones of my deer, so I will be responsible for cwd spreading to poultry

 

[giles]

I also let my chickens pick the bones of my deer, so I will be responsible for cwd spreading to poultry

I ain’t gonna lie, your take on this is upsetting me. I see a general “who’s gives a fuck” type attitude. Times are changing and if you don’t want to protect what we have, you are not a sportsman and should just quit now.

 

[Bigcountry40]

I ain’t gonna lie, your take on this is upsetting me. I see a general “who’s gives a fuck” type attitude. Times are changing and if you don’t want to protect what we have, you are not a sportsman and should just quit now.

I wasn't aware of cwd until like 2 weeks ago in Ohio, so my knowledge, habits, practices, etc may have to change. Basically i was ignorant to this info. But to be fair I am not doing anything extreme, breaking any laws, etc. I typically kill 3 deer a year and will now probably start digging holes to bury my bones. I just find it really ironic that we are to the point as a society where it is better to get rid of deer bones (natural, organic, living thing) at a land fill (unnatural human made creation), than to return the remains to its natural environment. I don't offense to your comment and see what you are saying, just perplexed at the future state of deer hunting and complexity cwd adds to the hobby

 

[motorbreaker]

Digging a hole is nothing new. Farmers have been doing it for years. Cattle die for unknown reasons, And most farmers I know always have a hole somewhere to burry them. The reasons for this include disease prevention.

 

[Bigcountry40]

Digging a hole is nothing new. Farmers have been doing it for years. Cattle die for unknown reasons, And most farmers I know always have a hole somewhere to burry them. The reasons for this include disease prevention.

with cattle where I am from it was about 50/50, honestly never thought about with deer! I guess each hunter who field dresses their animal in the field should now no longer leave that in the wild.

 

[Bigslam51]

Digging a hole is nothing new. Farmers have been doing it for years. Cattle die for unknown reasons, And most farmers I know always have a hole somewhere to burry them. The reasons for this include disease prevention.

They must not of caught on to that practice around here.

 

[Bigcountry40]

I ain’t gonna lie, your take on this is upsetting me. I see a general “who’s gives a fuck” type attitude. Times are changing and if you don’t want to protect what we have, you are not a sportsman and should just quit now.

If CWD really does become an issue in Ohio, things will definitely change. t. From what I read on the Michigan forum about the few counties in the south west part of the state that now have it, its hell. Giles you bone out and package your own deer correct? Well, if CWD become widespread in Ohio keeping deer properly chilled until testing is done will be a must. Hunters basically will have to take deer to meat lockers until testing results are confirmed. People will need to gut animals with gloves. Processing a deer that comes back clean in a cwd is still a nightmare due to all the regulation and rules. So when or if this day comes, I will become a strictly 1 deer a year guy (antler hunter), raise a pig or heifer and just take my entire deer to the processor once results of test come back clean. So I really do give a f**k, but again I do see your point,

 

[Fletch]

As Motorbreaker said CWD is some serious stuff.. Yeh EHD will hit and kill its share of deer, but it doesn't linger in the soil. Cwd's prions will get into the soil and last for years to come. A lot of states forbid you bringing a deer back into, or through their states with any brain or spinal cord material present. Example being since I hunt Illinois and must drive through several states back to New Jersey, I must have all of these materials removed. In other words I cannot bring a whole deer back. I'm sure it happens a lot, but I'm also sure that if stopped in Pa. with a whole deer they could confiscate it.

In an instance like this farm in Ohio, I'm sure if it doesn't have two fences around the property separated by several feet, the state will now require it. This is so a captive deer cannot lick a wild free roamimg deer and transmit the disease via saliva...

Given the choice I think I'd rather deal with EHD.

 

[Bigcountry40]

As Motorbreaker said CWD is some serious stuff.. Yeh EHD will hit and kill its share of deer, but it doesn't linger in the soil. Cwd's prions will get into the soil and last for years to come. A lot of states forbid you bringing a deer back into, or through their states with any brain or spinal cord material present. Example being since I hunt Illinois and must drive through several states back to New Jersey, I must have all of these materials removed. In other words I cannot bring a whole deer back. I'm sure it happens a lot, but I'm also sure that if stopped in Pa. with a whole deer they could confiscate it.

In an instance like this farm in Ohio, I'm sure if it doesn't have two fences around the property separated by several feet, the state will now require it. This is so a captive deer cannot lick a wild free roamimg deer and transmit the disease via saliva...

Given the choice I think I'd rather deal with EHD.

This where I ask again about infected deer in streams and water sources, can these prions contaminate water, and isn't this disease basically the same thing as mad cow?

 

[giles]

If CWD really does become an issue in Ohio, things will definitely change. t. From what I read on the Michigan forum about the few counties in the south west part of the state that now have it, its hell. Giles you bone out and package your own deer correct? Well, if CWD become widespread in Ohio keeping deer properly chilled until testing is done will be a must. Hunters basically will have to take deer to meat lockers until testing results are confirmed. People will need to gut animals with gloves. Processing a deer that comes back clean in a cwd is still a nightmare due to all the regulation and rules. So when or if this day comes, I will become a strictly 1 deer a year guy (antler hunter), raise a pig or heifer and just take my entire deer to the processor once results of test come back clean. So I really do give a f**k, but again I do see your point,

It’s all good man, I jumped the gun thinking you knew the effects.

 

[Bigcountry40]

It’s all good man, I jumped the gun thinking you knew the effects.

I'm a homo I'm a homo

 

[giles]

I'm a homo I'm a homo

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[Fletch]

BigCountry basically CWD is the same as Mad Cow.

 

["J"]

BigCountry basically CWD is the same as Mad Cow.

As of a few years ago I was denied donating blood by the Red Cross due to being in Europe to long during the mad cow disease era.

 

[Fletch]

As of a few years ago I was denied donating blood by the Red Cross due to being in Europe to long during the mad cow disease era.

J that's interesting..... Back in Nov. here in Jersey a friend had a doe in his back yard walking circles around a tree for over an hour... Just kept going around and around. Called Fish and Game and a warden came and shot deer as its actions were that of a CWD deer.. I haven't heard the test results yet.

 

[cspot]

I think CWD is some very bad shit. To say it dose not kill as many deer is not completely true, Because when it is found to be in an area. The DNR makes sure that the deer herd in the area and the surrounding areas are decimated.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...4---,00.html&usg=AOvVaw3xt9wtV9mY8eyGxGX0QktL

It all started when someone called the DNR and told them there was a sick deer on there property. That deer was killed and tested. It was found to have CWD. The DNR then had people kill a lot of deer in the immediate area and found more with CWD. The following year they put this area into a special zone. A zone where you could get unlimited tags. And every deer had to be taken in for testing. They found many deer to be positive with CWD and many have not been tested yet. Some deer were from the next counties over. The zone is now 6 counties I believe.
The question is, Will this area ever be CWD free. I don't think so. Its in the ground. Its in the plants that grow in this ground. The deer eat the plants and can get it.
The scary thing is that there is so much unknown when it comes to CWD. And i wouldn't be surprised if it was found in Ohio. This is why anyone who hunts out of state must dispose of any animal parts in the trash and not out in the wild.

I see a lot of people bashing deer farms. If you look at the facts, Deer farms actually have less CWD infected deer then there is in the wild. The reason that you see farms with CWD is only because there required to test for it. Ive done a lot of reading on deer farms and CWD and I don't believe they are the problem. Sure some farms break the rules and transport deer from state to state but most deer farms are on the level. And follow the rules.
I see a lot of rules changing in the years ahead because of CWD. And I believe they should. CWD is much worse the ehd imo.

Eradicating deer in a CWD zone has not worked in any state that they have tried it. Still though the deer kill is because of the DNR and not because of CWD disease itself. Once an area has CWD it is going to be there. I think it can stay in the soil for 25 years or something like that. You would have to keep the deer killed out of the area for 25 years and that would be impossible.

I agree that there is still alot of stuff that we don't know about CWD.

Deer farms are probably responsible for moving CWD around the country. Wild deer don't move thousands of miles. Like you said though that is because some of the farms break the rules.

 

[motorbreaker]

CWD can move around the country. People have moved animals from out west to there home state. And if they processed the animal their selves they may have thrown the carcass into the wild. And like you said. If the animal had CWD then it would be there for 25 years.