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at1010

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A lot of these are the realities of owning a property a distance from where you live. Especially in rural America. It's not all rainbows buddy. The same could be said for a cabin you don't live at. They get broke into all the time. IMO all of these things will be your biggest issue owning such a property.

you are right joe, I actually have seen it first hand at my own place. We have had some issue, and it blows.However we made some investments in better gates, cameras, etc. Knock on wood we have been fortunate thus far since making changes.

I have never been a fan of backing down because of what maybe could happen, like WTF I should never buy ground because maybe someone might through a Doritos bag on the ground or still my $50 tree stand? I might go 20+ years without any issues as well.
 

Bigcountry40

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A lot of these are the realities of owning a property a distance from where you live. Especially in rural America. It's not all rainbows buddy. The same could be said for a cabin you don't live at. They get broke into all the time. IMO all of these things will be your biggest issue owning such a property.

Last week on bow season, we went to my our Tusc County Cabin to find it broken into, we had to clear the house one room at a time with firearms, we think we ran them off.
 

Bigcountry40

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I really think the biggest issue with owning land which the individual live more than an 1 hour away, is the impoverished people living close to your property. There are a lot of poor people that live in trailers in rural whitetail country that only have a 100 x 100 lot. Naturally these people do not stay solely on their property. These people are typically not well educated, do not have good employment or make much money, but still feel entitled to the surrounding environment. When they see successful hunters rolling in with nice trucks, quads,and killing deer, this really pisses them off. In their eyes they see this as a social injustice that they have lived there their entire lives and outsiders now own the property they grew up hunting, hiking, smoking meth, etc.
 
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giles

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I really think the biggest issue with owning land which the individual live more than an 1 hour away, is the impoverished people living close to your property. There are a lot of poor people that live in trailers in rural whitetail country that only have a 100 x 100 lot. Naturally these people do not stay solely on their property. These people are typically not well educated, do not have good employment or make much money, but still feel entitled to the surrounding environment. When they see successful hunters rolling in with nice trucks, quads,and killing deer, this really pisses them off. In their eyes they see this as a social injustice that they have lived there their entire lives and outsiders now own the property they grew up hunting, hiking, smoking meth, etc.
I see some truth in that. It's how I feel when NR come in and lease up land.

Hell, even residents when they lease it up and lock out everyone.
 

Just 1 More

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I see some truth in that. It's how I feel when NR come in and lease up land.

Ya gotta get lucky with the right combination of Landowner, location and community. We've gotten to know a lot of the the locals,, because there are only a few... rotflmao
One of our neighbors takes care of the house for us, mows and watches over it in exchange for 2 processed deer each year. The son of one of the farmers we lease from just bought a house in town and moved about a block over from us so he keeps an eye on our place also. One of our farmers we lease from is the local postman so he goes by the house everyday.
All in all, We've been exceptionally lucky with our set up... but, I would consider it to be the exception
 
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Bigcountry40

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I see some truth in that. It's how I feel when NR come in and lease up land.

Hell, even residents when they lease it up and lock out everyone.

I feel that wayall time with local honey holes that used to communitty hunting grounds, but it is what it is, I can't afford to get tresspassing misdemeanors on my record.
 

Fletch

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Main question with somewhere like Iowa is ? Tag's... A non-resident can expect to draw a deer tag about every 4 years... So I'd check and see if you can get a tag every year being a landowner that resides in another state. Would suck to lay out money on property to find out you can only hunt it every 4 years....
 

Bigslam51

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Bigcountry40

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It basically says even though your a non resident landowner, you still have to apply for tags in Iowa.

I already stated this in the out of state hunts but since the forum is not really hopping right now I will repeat it here, I put in for a colorado cow elk tag with a buddy that has done it for years (he always got drawn) and I am basically looking at a $1000 including the tag. I think I may make this an annual trip depending on how this trip goes, there are a lot of good out of state budget hunts rather than spending mega bucks on a lease, out of state or in state property.
 

Buckmaster

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Shocked you wouldn't know better about issues living in southern ohio. Trespassing, poaching, quad riding, trash dumping, mushroom stealing, weed growing, stand stealing, truck mudding, and the list could go on. Especially once they figure out a flat lander owns it.

Yep, all true. I live 120 miles from Deer Camp and can hardly make it down there at times. I spend 17 years working on it (maintain, grass mowing, plots, stands, trail cutting, etc.) and seldom have the time for R & R as I had fully expected. When its work time..your friends have a way of disappearing but are first to show up come hunting season. It's all work,,,seldom play,,,,,except for Nov and Dec. when the grass doesn't need mowed. I would not buy a farm any further than 2 hours from home.
 
Yep, all true. I live 120 miles from Deer Camp and can hardly make it down there at times. I spend 17 years working on it (maintain, grass mowing, plots, stands, trail cutting, etc.) and seldom have the time for R & R as I had fully expected. When its work time..your friends have a way of disappearing but are first to show up come hunting season. It's all work,,,seldom play,,,,,except for Nov and Dec. when the grass doesn't need mowed. I would not buy a farm any further than 2 hours from home.

I know exactly what you mean. R&R is almost out of the question. And getting your friends and even family that hunt in the fall to help is almost a pipe dream. I almost sold my place last spring, but my wife, the only one that helps out most of the time, talked me out of it.
 

Bigcountry40

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Yep, all true. I live 120 miles from Deer Camp and can hardly make it down there at times. I spend 17 years working on it (maintain, grass mowing, plots, stands, trail cutting, etc.) and seldom have the time for R & R as I had fully expected. When its work time..your friends have a way of disappearing but are first to show up come hunting season. It's all work,,,seldom play,,,,,except for Nov and Dec. when the grass doesn't need mowed. I would not buy a farm any further than 2 hours from home.

My small group (4 of us) that hunts a our buddies cabin/farm rotate mowing responsibility, last few years since I only live an hour away, I basically do all the mowing now, we always tell the land owner we will do all the prep work/ major projects in the spring and summer, land owner never has nothing for us to do then. but when october and november roll around and we all want to spend whole days in the woods, the land owner has a list of chores and projects he wants to get down. We address it every year, but it has continues to be a annual tradition. lol
 

at1010

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I don't mind the habitat work, mowing the lawn, etc. I actually love it but I am sure as I get older/busier it'll be harder to do.

heck just this weekend I spread 5 tons of lime, 7000 by myself. I did it in about 4 hours. Shoveled it into a PTO spreader and then drove the tractor around the plots. Then I started over again. I wouldn't want it any other way!

If I ever bought in another area I think it would be very minimal work type of place. I think I have decided to just save up and buy land around me if it ever goes for sale.