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jagermeister

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Jim, from what I've read on bentonite is that it is non toxic to humans but harms aquatic life.
It can harm aquatic life to an extent. Essentially it has the potential to suffocate certain organisms due to the way it can suspend in the water. I agree with you that it's not good. But relatively speaking it's not that bad either. Drilling mud, and bentonite in general, is used in so many applications all around the world. It's mainly just clay and water. If it was a huge threat to aquatic ecosystems it likely wouldn't be the industry standard for it's many many uses.

 

Jackalope

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So you wouldn't mind if it got spilled in your local river?
My local river was the Mississippi growing up, my lake the gulf. You northernors allow so much fertilizer runoff that its created a 5,985 square mile low oxygen Dead Zone in the gulf. Yet i still see them being allowed to rip out fencerows and clean out ditches.

A little drill mud in a swamp isn't going to hurt much bud. So what if it kills some clams and salamanders. They'll be back.
 

Jackalope

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Both are actions that could of been prevented.
No doubt bud. I know it hits close to home but really its not going to do that much damage to the ecosystem. It will kill some aquatic plants and bottom dwelling creatures but they'll bounce back in short order. Its not like crude or a super harmful chemical, its mostly muddy water.

Like i was saying earlier though the biggest issue will be the ammo it gives the tree hugging enviro jobs who want to stop all drilling and pipelines. They would rather keep selling our soul to Saudi Arabia than ever have some clams get suffocated once in a rare occurrence.

 

CJD3

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Hmmm. Bentonite is a naturally occurring clay. Pollutant, sure... But is it truly hazardous? Hell, it's what's used to seal casing around private water wells. The spill is still a major fuck up though. Hate to see shit like this...

Unfortunate accident but I feel the same way as Jim and Joe.
 

Just 1 More

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My local river was the Mississippi growing up, my lake the gulf. You northernors allow so much fertilizer runoff that its created a 5,985 square mile low oxygen Dead Zone in the gulf. Yet i still see them being allowed to rip out fencerows and clean out ditches.

A little drill mud in a swamp isn't going to hurt much bud. So what if it kills some clams and salamanders. They'll be back.

Nothing like a massive red tide out break
 

Bigslam51

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No doubt bud. I know it hits close to home but really its not going to do that much damage to the ecosystem. It will kill some aquatic plants and bottom dwelling creatures but they'll bounce back in short order. Its not like crude or a super harmful chemical, its mostly muddy water.

Like i was saying earlier though the biggest issue will be the ammo it gives the tree hugging enviro jobs who want to stop all drilling and pipelines. They would rather keep selling our soul to Saudi Arabia than ever have some clams get suffocated once in a rare occurrence.
http://www.whbc.com/10231-2/
 

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That has sabotage written all over it...it'll be interesting to see how that plays out.

There is a well funded protest group targeting the Rover project. These are not the type that hold signs and chant,, they take action and look to get reactions and results
 

giles

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Seems like a real stupid way to stop a big project. Big companies aren't into stopping projects over small money. Plenty of other drilling lubricants available at a good cost. Add that on top of it being around a watershed...seems fishy to me.

Article also said "small amounts".
 

Hoytmania

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IDK.. was just sayin they're out there.. and crews are not on site 24/7
This is true, I've been watching it go through the fields a 1/4 mile south of my house for the past couple months. There are nights it's lit up like a Christmas tree and no body would get away with anything. On the other hand there's been many nights I could have went down there and explored and no body would have known.

I haven't done any exploring due to I figure they have cameras set up, and it's always seems to be my luck to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

Bigslam51

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This is true, I've been watching it go through the fields a 1/4 mile south of my house for the past couple months. There are nights it's lit up like a Christmas tree and no body would get away with anything. On the other hand there's been many nights I could have went down there and explored and no body would have known.

I haven't done any exploring due to I figure they have cameras set up, and it's always seems to be my luck to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Oh I'm sure the sites have a few cell cams on it lol. There's no way they are going to leave it unattended without surveillance.
 

giles

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Go rent a truck, grab a hard hat and pull right up. So much turn around on those jobs and people coming and going, no one would notice. It ain't like trying to get into a gated refinery.