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jagermeister

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JB, you getting all this?
Yep, every damn word of it. And I'm laughing my ass off! Lol. I think a minivan would actually suit my wife very well. She wants something with room that can also haul the dog around, separate from baby.

Joe, have you looked at a used F150 crew cab with Ecoboost? Decent mileage, torque and hauling that is pretty damn impressive, immaculate interior quality, and decent resale value.

 

giles

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Yep, every damn word of it. And I'm laughing my ass off! Lol. I think a minivan would actually suit my wife very well. She wants something with room that can also haul the dog around, separate from baby.

Joe, have you looked at a used F150 crew cab with Ecoboost? Decent mileage, torque and hauling that is pretty damn impressive, immaculate interior quality, and decent resale value.

Resale sucks goat balls on them! $50,000 half ton truck that's worth $25-28,000 in 3 years with 100,000 on them. Ecoboost is an option for a guy not looking to get rid of it for 10 years.
 

5Cent

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Tundra provides plenty of American jobs...most American built truck made. I don't care who owns it, it's providing Americans with jobs more then the rest of them.

Never said they didn't nor did I say American OEMs provide more jobs. Not the thread for this type of discussion. The OP was between two OEMs, in a diesel package. Let's get this baby back on track, lol.

Go buy your Yota and put a few hundred thousands miles on it then provide real world input.

Joe, post years and models ya find for more info/input. Good luck searching!
 
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5Cent

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Yep, every damn word of it. And I'm laughing my ass off! Lol. I think a minivan would actually suit my wife very well. She wants something with room that can also haul the dog around, separate from baby.

Joe, have you looked at a used F150 crew cab with Ecoboost? Decent mileage, torque and hauling that is pretty damn impressive, immaculate interior quality, and decent resale value.

Good, that was the hope with the banter. Some good info being traded in the middle of it.
 

jagermeister

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Resale sucks goat balls on them! $50,000 half ton truck that's worth $25-28,000 in 3 years with 100,000 on them. Ecoboost is an option for a guy not looking to get rid of it for 10 years.
Yea but if he buys it used from the get go he won't take it in the shorts near as hard.

I think the resale thing is being overstated. I bet that savings realized in resale value will be offset in higher operation and maintenance costs.

 

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Yea but if he buys it used from the get go he won't take it in the shorts near as hard.

I think the resale thing is being overstated. I bet that savings realized in resale value will be offset in higher operation and maintenance costs.
I do not see maintenance cost being that much more on a diesel than a gasser. 10qts of oil versus 6 yes but the change interval on a diesel is double that of a gasser. Go synthetic and recommended change interval on mine is 20k miles. Brake pads cost the same for my truck as it does for my wife's terrain. Tires are a little more expensive but not much if you stay close to stock. My set was probably $100 more than hers. Fuel is probably the biggest difference. Diesel is going to run you $2.40-$2.50 a gallon. Gas will be anywhere from $1.95-$2.30 it fluctuates a lot more.

I do all my own maintenance and also wrench on others on the side. You won't see that much difference unless you need other parts like turbos, transmissions, suspension parts, then the diesel is going to be significantly more. These should not be an issue though for many miles.
 
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giles

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Yea but if he buys it used from the get go he won't take it in the shorts near as hard.

I think the resale thing is being overstated. I bet that savings realized in resale value will be offset in higher operation and maintenance costs.

Ok, so he buys one 3 years old with 100,000 on it for $25...drives it 3 years and sells it with 200,000 miles for $11-14. Meanwhile, he could buy that diesel truck with 100,000 miles for $35-40, put another 100,000 on it and sell it for $25-30. That's half the amount of money he get to keep in his wives purse.

I see Joe's point and motivation here. I have just pointed out some downfalls to DD'ing a HD truck and sharing other options I have found.
 

jagermeister

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Ok, so he buys one 3 years old with 100,000 on it for $25...drives it 3 years and sells it with 200,000 miles for $11-14. Meanwhile, he could buy that diesel truck with 100,000 miles for $35-40, put another 100,000 on it and sell it for $25-30. That's half the amount of money he get to keep in his wives purse.

I see Joe's point and motivation here. I have just pointed out some downfalls to DD'ing a HD truck and sharing other options I have found.
Bought my F150 only 2.5 years old with 21,000 miles on it.

Look, I get it. Dude wants a diesel. We're justing throwing other ideas out is all.

 

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Advising on a truck for another guy is like looking for a new wife for the guy. We all have different ideas and likes or dislikes.
 

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Ok, so he buys one 3 years old with 100,000 on it for $25...drives it 3 years and sells it with 200,000 miles for $11-14. Meanwhile, he could buy that diesel truck with 100,000 miles for $35-40, put another 100,000 on it and sell it for $25-30. That's half the amount of money he get to keep in his wives purse.

I see Joe's point and motivation here. I have just pointed out some downfalls to DD'ing a HD truck and sharing other options I have found.
Precisely. Then factor in gas vs diesel MPG. Let's just use even numbers and say $2.50 a gallon average. Driving 33k per year at 15 mpg is $4000 in gas. Get 20 mpg on a diesel and fuel cost is 3,100. That's +$2,600 over 3 years.

 

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I think the resale thing is being overstated. I bet that savings realized in resale value will be offset in higher operation and maintenance costs.

Resale doesn't even enter my thought process as I run em until the wheels are ready to fall off....


 

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Hey Joe how about I solve all your problems for ya. I'll sell you my 2010 Tundra. It is through the initial depreciation period (just flipped to 60K yesterday) so you won't loose your ass when you sell it in 3 years. Yotas hold their value.
More than capable of pulling what you are wanting and you won't have any maintenance costs other than routine.
When are you coming out to pick it up?
 

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Ok, so he buys one 3 years old with 100,000 on it for $25...drives it 3 years and sells it with 200,000 miles for $11-14. Meanwhile, he could buy that diesel truck with 100,000 miles for $35-40, put another 100,000 on it and sell it for $25-30. That's half the amount of money he get to keep in his wives purse.

I see Joe's point and motivation here. I have just pointed out some downfalls to DD'ing a HD truck and sharing other options I have found.


What? You are telling me a 200k mile truck will bring $25-30k? Maybe if it pulls around 80,000lbs. Not a pickup. If so, then my 95-100k mile Dodge with 5.9 Cummins should be worth a mint.

Precisely. Then factor in gas vs diesel MPG. Let's just use even numbers and say $2.50 a gallon average. Driving 33k per year at 15 mpg is $4000 in gas. Get 20 mpg on a diesel and fuel cost is 3,100. That's +$2,600 over 3 years.

Except you will get about the same mileage with a gasser as you will a diesel now that the new regulations/emissions crap has come out. The ultra low sulphur has also pulled down mileage of EVERY single one of my older trucks. Even using additives, I get worse mileage but a little better peace of mind.

I think you should do some looking in the mirror and talking to guys who won't BS you about their mileage. You know how you drive. Your input thru the throttle will influence actual MPG results. The guys posting their best MPG ever and bragging on it cannot be listened to. Find out what all their other fill ups averaged.
 

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Here are my actuals on my 14. Goes through 2.5gal of DEF on average 3k miles, less if towing heavier than 5,000lbs plus.

I see the biggest difference in mpg with the switch between summer and winter blend and idle/high idle time. Bought her in 03/2014, but son ripped off the page with those first 3 months, leaving just shy of 3yrs with of hand calculated numbers. DIC will state anywhere up to 2mpg different. The only difference I see in mileage average between my 01 that I sold with just shy of 200k and a set of smoking injectors is when towing. Used to be able to tow up to 12k and maintain 16+, the 2014 will do 11-13 with anything over 5,000lbs.

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5Cent

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Huh, no toyotas listed:smiley_chinrub::smiley_crocodile:

7yr old trucks with 200k+ plus selling for close to 50% of their original value that can haul and pull more than groceries or a landscape trailer.
 
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