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5Cent

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"J" said:
Seriously that's a good run, what kind of mileage you averaging a year with those vehicles?

I've had about he same luck with both Chevy and ford on the accessories attached too the motor on those vehicles.... Chevy hubs suck, aftermarket are cheaper but no better quality.... Window regulators on GM are the dumbest design and cheaply assembled (cable and drum setup for cold weather climates are ridiculous) and go out quite a bit....
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Vehicle 1: 1992 Ford Ranger, little suspension lift and bigger tires. Only did a carrier bearing on rear driveshaft due to changing the angle. Only drove it my junior-senior year before I totaled it. Donno how many miles.

Vehicle 2: 1992 Jeep Cherokee XJ. Highly modified suspension. Only had to replace the radiator, water pump, and head cover gasket in 102k miles I put on it. Owned since senior year in high school all thru college. Sold her with 201K.

Vehicle 3: 2001 Duramax LB7. Brakes all 4 corners and 1 small coolant bypass hose on back of water pump. I put 122k miles on her and worked her like a dog. Traded her in with 220k on the ticker.

Vehicle 4: 2011 Chevy 1500. Bought new, 66k miles on it. Notta.

Vehicle 5: 2014 Duramax. 65k miles and still daily driving it. Not killing her but she gets worked often towing and/or hauling year round. Notta

Fluid and filter changes, general maint. obviously not included. Just take care of ure shit lol!
 
giles

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Oh shit...let me think about this a minute.
2006 3500 Cummins
Trans-67,000
Intercooler-67,000
Injectors-69,000
TIPM-75,000
CPU-75,000
TIPM-104,00
Ac compressor-105,000
Front end-yearly (so 4 times)
Map sensor-110,000
Alternator-110,000
Batteries-110,000
Motor-132,00 (my fault, little much boost and fuel)
Trans-142,000
Trans and TC-143,000
Trans-143,200
Turbo-143,200
Dash assembly-144,000
Door blend kit-144,000
147,000 miles now and the ac just quit again...
That's over $20,000 in repairs in 4 years. Some completely my fault, others...not so much. This doesn't include oil change, brakes, rotors, filers, tires and any other "wear" part. Or "go fast" parts when I was in that stage.
 
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5Cent said:
That's a pile of replacement parts larger than all I have replaced in 18yrs on all of the vehicles I have owned since 16! Hate to hear it, but that's classified as a lemon, no?
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hickslawns said:
You are a fortunate man.
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That's what I was thinking. Adam if that's all you did in that amount of time, it's not because GM is high quality... It's because you're lucky I think. Lol. We've replaced almost that many parts in my wife's two Chevy cars alone (the only Chevy's we've ever owned btw). Hell, her Cruze had four fuckin water pumps installed in it before it hit 40k miles!!! Then we traded it in when it showed symptoms of a bad head gasket.
 
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I would say Adam is lucky. Dave is unlucky. Outside of premature front end wear, and transmissions in the Gen 2 Dodge trucks, I've not heard of so many issues. My 2000 had to have a transmission repaired (5sp) at 187,000 miles. I had them put in a new clutch at the same time since it was the original. Maybe by NOT adding injectors, chips, different turbos and such. . . .Dave may not have as many repairs. Lol

My Chevy vehicles were all bad for electrical items like windows, blower switches, sensors, and hubs. Major components seemed to be okay. They just Nickle and dimed me.
 
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5Cent said:
Lordy....
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I think one of the biggest diferences is I didn't see any after 2001 with over 100k miles. I didn't begin to have issues with my truck or this car until north of 95,000, one is an 05 the other an 07. Around 2000 GM began heading for their inevitable bankruptcy in early 2009. In the decade leading up to it I am sure cost-cutting measures played a huge role in dependability. To include pricing reductions for accessories from suppliers like ACDelco.

The tell all is when GM filed for chapter 11 restructuring in 2011 they tried to weasel out of everyone's existing warranties claiming that the new company is not responsible for the old company's vehicles. Thankfully a bankruptcy judge thought better of that. However the taxpayers did lose 11 billion dollars in GM that has not been repaid.
 
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hickslawns said:
I would say Adam is lucky. Dave is unlucky. Outside of premature front end wear, and transmissions in the Gen 2 Dodge trucks, I've not heard of so many issues. My 2000 had to have a transmission repaired (5sp) at 187,000 miles. I had them put in a new clutch at the same time since it was the original. Maybe by NOT adding injectors, chips, different turbos and such. . . .Dave may not have as many repairs. Lol

My Chevy vehicles were all bad for electrical items like windows, blower switches, sensors, and hubs. Major components seemed to be okay. They just Nickle and dimed me.
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I take blame for some of the items, CPU/TIPM/electrical issues and the front end is poor design. Don't even get me started on the junk auto transmission issues they took two decades to finally fix.
 
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LOL, whatever ya got to tell yourself Joerotflmao. This thread should seriously be renamed given it's winding path to where we are today and the amount of distance from the original intent of discussing diesels.

Giles, just hate to hear it man, but I thought that's why you wanted to sell it 10 months ago right after she was road worthy again. I want to feel bad for ya, but can't at this point.
 
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5Cent said:
LOL, whatever ya got to tell yourself Joerotflmao. This thread should seriously be renamed given it's winding path to where we are today and the amount of distance from the original intent of discussing diesels.

Giles, just hate to hear it man, but I thought that's why you wanted to sell it 10 months ago right after she was road worthy again. I want to feel bad for ya, but can't at this point.
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Nothing I stated was untrue regarding GM. The only non validated aspect was my presumption for their decline in quality between 2000 and their restructuring. It's logical that a decline in financial stability resulted in reductuon in R&D funding as well as quality cuts. The impacts of this are still evident to this day, all one has to do is peek inside a Ford and a GM to see the difference, whereas they were once comparable GM has obviously fallen considerably behind.
 
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I love the truck and refuse to give up on something. Passing the problem on isn't my style. I'll get it figured out one of these days, almost a new truck now! And for what they want for new ones...

The wife is pushing me pretty hard about getting another truck though...like sending me pics of trucks daily. That's who sent me that Ford I posted last week[emoji23]
 
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GM's issues started when they sent the majority of their wire harnesses jobs south of the boarder to be built then had so many issues that after they built them they ran thru the original plant up here in Trumbull county for quality control verification.... Used to be called Packard Electric they changed the name too Delphi somewhere along that road....
 
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Phil said earlier in this thread it's not the time to be buying a vehicle. After dealing with a couple salesmen over the past week I agree with him. They're making hay while the sun shines reeling in the suckers right now. Been looking for a 2015 or 2016 Explorer for the wife. Found a couple and went and talked to a salesman. There must be no shortage of morons buying vehicles right now. On a vehicle with a trade in price of 22,500. Private party. 25k. Dealer invoice 27k. And they have it marked 28,500. Salesman "I'm going to get you a best we can do price, bottom dollar." Here's how the convo went.

I got him to 27,500!
He's 500 above dealer invoice,
"what are you thinking then"
23,500
Oh man. We can't do that. That's what we gave for it.
You overpaid then. Trade in is 22,5.
He hurries off and comes back.
He can do another 500. 27k.
We're not even in the same balpark, financing is done bud all i have do is sign, you wanna sell it I'm at 23,5.

Maybe we can work on the trade. How much do you owe on it?
Here's the keys take a look and let me know what you think is a good price.
Comes back 2k under book trade.
I thought yall overpaid on trades.
Well what are you looking to get out of it.
67k. (Joke as its only worth 12k)
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Look man. We're not even close here. You've got my number. When you want to sell a car call me.

No way in fucking hell am I giving a guy 27k on a car that has a trade value of 22,500. I would have bought it at 25 which is the private party price if he got there. If you think I'm gonna be 4.5k in the red on a vehicle before I even drive it off the lot you're smoking crack.

One thing they love to say "we're very competitive, we search in a 500 mile radius and price our vehicles to market price" my response. That's what everyone wants for it, not what it's worth. Everybody in 500 miles can mark it 100 grand but that don't mean it's worth it.

Had one guy today try to talk me into a new one. "I think i can get it for you at 0%. This is right after I was looking at a 2016 with 17k miles that was listed at 27k and was msrp 42k. What good does zero percent interest do me when it depreciates 15k the first year. That's a dollar a mile depreciation. No thanks.

They done lost their minds. The only thing I can think of is they obviously have no shortage of financially inept morons walking onto the lot.
 
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Had one fella today try to sell me a 2016 with 19k miles. Trade in was 23. Private party 25,5. And invoice was 28k. The car smelled like a family of chain smokers had it, headliner had streaks from sticking cigaretts out of the window, center console, back seat, and passenger seat had a burn in the leather, passenger door had a small ding and the rear bumper on the corner was creased from an accident. Turns out the car was a repo and the crease was from the tow truck. I told him that was worrisome for a couple reasons. People that get their car repossessed don't usually keep up on maintenance like oil changes. And if a tow truck driver damages collateral it makes me wonder if he was smart enough to put it on a dollys since it's AWD.

Ready for this. He wanted invoice on the pos.
 
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Yup. Easy financing. Want a Harley? Want a camper? Want a new vehicle? Have bad credit? We'll get you financed!

Auto makers are hurting. One of the largest purchasers of their vehicles is the rental car companies. Guess what? They are going bankrupt right now. The used car market counts on buying the used rental fleet. Used market seems pretty strong right now. Guess what? That means the new car market isn't moving squat. They are financing everyone and selling at close to cost. Rebates out the wazzoo. Just over cost for sales price. Wait until the influx of repo vehicles start hitting the used market. Wait until the corporate debt of the manufacturers comes due in the next couple years. Hang onto your cash fellas. Going to be some deals to buy.
 
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Yup. Easy financing. Want a Harley? Want a camper? Want a new vehicle? Have bad credit? We'll get you financed!

Auto makers are hurting. One of the largest purchasers of their vehicles is the rental car companies. Guess what? They are going bankrupt right now. The used car market counts on buying the used rental fleet. Used market seems pretty strong right now. Guess what? That means the new car market isn't moving squat. They are financing everyone and selling at close to cost. Rebates out the wazzoo. Just over cost for sales price. Wait until the influx of repo vehicles start hitting the used market. Wait until the corporate debt of the manufacturers comes due in the next couple years. Hang onto your cash fellas. Going to be some deals to buy.
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Something has to give. No reason every 5th vehicle you see on the road is worth more then most people make in a year. That math will never hold up.
 
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