Okay, just a quick update, I have seen a lot of does from the stand and on camera but my hit list bucks have been gone since 9/20. I was worried after not seeing them for a month but I have stayed out of their am practice good scent control when checking my camera, I let it soak for 2 weeks after the 17th of September and just pulled for the 2nd time now and I'm so releaved because both sticker and the diamond 8 are alive and well, I pulled the card this afternoon and had pics of them in the am and pm for the past 3 days so hopefully they keep the same routine because I'm goin out tomorrow morning and night because they wind will be perfect for it. They were my number 2 and 3 my number 1 or the biggest 8 is no where to be seen in camera but I'm sure he is still close by. Hopefully I'll get it done tomorrow and if not I'm going out Saturday and Sunday to my friends property where I saw 2 shooters at 80 yards so either way this weekend should be good