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It's official, the Buckeye's next coach...

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Urban Meyer.

This is no surprise, of course, but his agent officially announced it this morning.

I wonder how long it will be until he needs "to find balance in his life again"?
 

Huckleberry Finn

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Do you know how many high school juniors and seniors studs are waking up, watching ESPN, and buying OSU stuff? We're going to bring in some huge talent, combined with Braxton Miller. Give 'em 2 years and we'll be smoking people...
 

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If he has a bad first season OSU fans will be asking for his head! lol

I doubt it. We were brought to our knees this year and most of Buckeye nation ended up with a new view on things as a result. Now if he doesn't win or contend for a NC in 3-4 years, I can see it happening! LOL!!!

Great move for OSU and I support it 100%. It's gonna be a good ride!!!
 

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I wouldn't have turned him down coming o Michigan last year ;)

Hoake has my support and hopefully can recruit well. Hopefully we get a decent bowl and win. That helps. Ohio State has had great recruiting classes for the last decade and the thing that REALLY hurt them was losing some upper class experience this year. I say OSU will be 9-3 next year. Good year. After that depends on player development.
 

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With Urban coming in, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Nebraska, and Michigan, hopefully the Big Ten can return to the top and compete with the SEC again. It's getting old seeing the SEC at the top year after year, and we need to be up there competing for the title again.

I am glad to see OSU picked up Meyer, hopefully he brings great things to OSU. If he can recruit players that aren't blinded by the boosters there and can keep them out of trouble he should do well.
 

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With Urban coming in, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Nebraska, and Michigan, hopefully the Big Ten can return to the top and compete with the SEC again. It's getting old seeing the SEC at the top year after year, and we need to be up there competing for the title again.

I am glad to see OSU picked up Meyer, hopefully he brings great things to OSU. If he can recruit players that aren't blinded by the boosters there and can keep them out of trouble he should do well.

The boosters are the ones that brought him in. Gene Smith had nothing to do with it apparently. There was talk that Smith being let go was part of Urban coming on...
 

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With Urban coming in, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Nebraska, and Michigan, hopefully the Big Ten can return to the top and compete with the SEC again. It's getting old seeing the SEC at the top year after year, and we need to be up there competing for the title again.

I am glad to see OSU picked up Meyer, hopefully he brings great things to OSU. If he can recruit players that aren't blinded by the boosters there and can keep them out of trouble he should do well.


Or just start watching SEC football until the Big 10 gets back on track.. Plenty of in conference games there that are lights out good football. 2002 was the last NC win for OSU, and before that was 1970.. I wouldn't really consider the two showings against LSU and Fl as "competing".. The scores of those games were anything but competitive. The Big 10 has 1 BCS NC compared to the SECs 7 (about to be 8).. Might take a while before they can compete on that level again. But hey. Who knows. Would be nice to see... Or we could just keep sending that crystal ball between Florida, LSU, Alabama, Auburn, and Tennessee.
 
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Hopefully he can pull in some more recruits. He has good talent to work with already in the form of players AND coaches. I just hope he doesn't come in and clean house with the coaching staff.
 

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Wonder how long til he moves on. Or misses his family. Or gets the nod at an SEC position. Or...

What I am really suprised about is that Gene Smith is still there.
 

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I think gene is gone after the punishment comes down..

IF you are the University why wait? Only reason I could see is to save alot of money on his contract. Maybe it has a clause where if certain things happen he doesn't get crap...
 

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As I understand, Urban is no saint and had his share of run ins with the NCAA. I wonder how long it will be before the preasure and money cause another scandal. I am cautiously optomistic about him coaching. I am certain he will raise the level of play. I question his integrity.
 

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Keep wondering boys. Keep wondering. I'm all in as a Buckeye. My enthusiasm for the program just went through the roof!!! :smiley_clap:
 

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Since he left Florida for "family issues" everyone seems to forget Urbans past. He could be rife with trouble. Mix his moral...um...weakness with OSU's track record it could get ugly really quick. Here is some things people have forgotten...

For a great brief synopsis on Meyer's mounting legacy of dirty tricks in recruiting, read ESPN college football reporter Bruce Feldman's blog. You'll need to scroll down a few stories before coming to "Meyer at center of controversy."

To summarize, Meyer landed a top JUCO wide receiver this season by doggedly recruiting the player's girlfriend, a gymnast, to come to UF. This is a blatant violation of a basic NCAA rule forbidding football coaches from recruiting for other sports and also an infraction regarding frequency of contact.

He further would orchestrate a call between that player and Tim Tebow at the Heisman Trophy ceremony which is also a clear violation of NCAA rules.

He lied to a Michigan recruit about a conversation he had with UM coaches attempting to trick the player into believing the Michigan coaches felt the player would be better off at Florida. The conversation never took place; a clear ethical and moral breech.

Finally, Meyer told a top QB recruit (Jevan Snead, formerly at Texas, now at Ole Miss) two years ago that his only interest in scouting Tim Tebow was as a linebacker after promising the player he was the only quarterback the Gators were recruiting. Another blatant lie. Another dramatic ethical and moral breech. But worse still, the gross act of a grown man trying to screw with a teenager's future, the ultimate act of deceit, brokering on built up trust to deceive a kid for your personal gain.

Sickening. Each and every case.

These are not the acts of a man with integrity.

This is not merely coloring outside the lines or being a fierce competitor. This is cheating. There's no other way to view it.

Urban Meyer is a cheater.

The problem for the rest of the college football world is that these are only secondary violations in the eyes of the NCAA and it appears as though Meyer couldn't give a damn about racking up more secondary violations than bimbos at a Poison concert. At most he'll get a slap on the wrist from the NCAA, maybe lose a few phone call privileges or be docked a visit here or there, but when you're at Florida, you have so many built in recruiting advantages, you can risk minor sanction in pursuing the crown jewel players because you're going to get your fair share of blue chippers regardless.

Meyer's administration clearly approves of his conduct, Meyer personally has no conscience about his crooked behavior, Gator fans are obviously on board and the NCAA lacks the stones to punish him for what are obvious and wanton violations of both the spirit and letter of its laws.

The University of Florida is a great school with a beautiful campus, a wonderful tradition, outstanding facilities, resort weather, a great head coach and it's located in the middle of some of the best recruiting turf in America, its coach doesn't need to cheat to land top talent, but that's just what he's doing.

What Meyer's supporters will tell you in attempting to defend his underhandedness is that all coaches and all schools bend the rules when it comes to recruiting.

That may be so, but Meyer has gone well beyond just bending the rules, he's taken a bamboo pole, jammed it up the backside of the rules, broken it off, taken the remainder and plunged it in the rules' eye, kicked the rules in the groin and then spit on them as he walks away.

Urban Meyer treats the NCAA rulebook on recruiting like some perfect combination of Eddie Gilbert, Ric Flair and Abdullah the Butcher. He uses charm, guile and outright brutality.

Urban Meyer doesn't do anything half speed. When he coaches, he coaches all out. When he recruits, he recruits all out. When he cheats, he cheats all out.

Urban Meyer is no fool. He's no dope. He's one of the smartest coaches in any sport and he knows exactly what the NCAA rulebook says about recruiting. He knows what's allowed, when, and how often. He knows what a major violation is; he knows what a minor violation is. He has chosen to knowingly break the rules, repeatedly. Meyer knows exactly what he's doing and he continues to do it.

He has what appears to be a pathological aversion to sportsmanship when it comes to recruiting.

What can be done to stop Urban Meyer?

Only one group of people can bring him under control and that is his peers.

It's up to the coaches who do it right, heavyweights like Mark Richt, Tommy

Tuberville and Les Miles within the conference and big names at big schools with big platforms outside like Pete Carroll and Mack Brown to use their stature to stare down and reign in Meyer because he's proven he won't stop on his own and with the force of a major university and program like Florida's behind him, he'd just steamroll the weak.

The coaches within the SEC need to go to the commissioner, report suspected violations, let the league put pressure on Meyer to clean up his act. They should use the media as well as back channels within the coaching community to let Meyer know that what he's doing isn't going unnoticed and if it continues, he'll be blackballed in the community and hounded by more investigations than the Clinton Administration.

Coaches need to drop the dime on him. Inform on him. Bog the Florida administration down with so many reports of violations to investigate that they become sick of it and bring him in line.

Urban Meyer brought this upon himself by being a cheater. He's been rolling around in the mud, if some other coach pushes his face in it he's only getting what he asked for.

If a coach hears something from a recruit about a possible violation or lie, inquire about it with Meyer. If you don't get a response or a satisfactory response, drop it to a newspaper. Repeated stories of misconduct in the L.A. Times or Atlanta Journal-Constitution will bring Meyer kicking and screaming into the community of honorable behavior.

Virtually everything about the recruiting process makes it rife for abuse and there is no coach with perfectly clean hands, but Meyer's egregious rule breaking and consistently galling lack of ethics demands action to curtail.

From Chad Scott