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teej89

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Is the advice my dad recently gave to me that my mom's dad gave to him when he was my age, 27. Recently my fiance and I decided we're leaving OH after the wedding to move out west. However she wants more mild winters and more warm weather so we decided upon Arizona. Our first thought was Phoenix, it'd be really easy to get jobs cuz of it being a city however... it's a city and way too hot in the summers. We live in columbus now and are over it due to wasting so much time commuting to and from work, commuting 45min to an hour and a half just do some recreational outdoor activities away from people. We just feel like our lives are flashing by but we're doing nothing because to do anything while living in a city it requires a lot of commuting time. With that being said we are looking at 2hrs north of phoenix, mild winters and awesome summers and in the middle of elk and deer territory as well as an outlet to some amazing hiking and biking (for her and I). It's littered with smaller towns from 10-30k people, right in our wheel house.

With that being said she would most likely be taking a pay cut of $10k and I'm assuming I'd drop 10-15k as well. To me I don't see an issue in this because we're good with our money and we can just cut back on some misc expenses. I see my dads point, i think, but he was always miserable and still kinda is. I obviously don't take it personally just cuz he's a grump but he said if he never got married and had kids his dream would to be living in a cabin in Montana with the dogs. Is the money really worth being somewhere where you're not happy?

Thanks guys! Vent over.

T.J.
 

"J"

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You're in the time in your lives where you can do what you want and not have too much to worry about since kids aren't in the picture.... If nothing else you will do what your heart tells you and if it works out great, if not then you at least gave it a shot and won't have those regrets your dad did....
 
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MoonLab

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I wish you guys luck. Whatever makes you happy, i would say go for it. You can always come back. Just go with how you guys feel so that way you guys wont regret it. Its always good to experience new things down there. Wish you guys luck.
 

teej89

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Thanks guys I appreciate the responses! My thing yeah in the city right now I make hellvua good money for my age but... I work 50-60hrs a week and commute an hour a day for work then when I get home another hour to take the dog to the lake/woods. When my buds at home, who make a good bit less than me, drive 10min to work, work 8hrs, go home and pick up their bows/guns and hunt the evenings or meet up for some drinks and grilling, I barely have time to cook dinner.... My fear is kids are in my future, <5yrs and I don't want to make an irresponsible decision now and pay for it later.
 

"J"

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What ever you do, get established for when they come... Live within your means and enjoy your time together... Having nice houses nice cars and no time to enjoy them isn't a way to live...
 

giles

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Thanks guys I appreciate the responses! My thing yeah in the city right now I make hellvua good money for my age but... I work 50-60hrs a week and commute an hour a day for work then when I get home another hour to take the dog to the lake/woods. When my buds at home, who make a good bit less than me, drive 10min to work, work 8hrs, go home and pick up their bows/guns and hunt the evenings or meet up for some drinks and grilling, I barely have time to cook dinner.... My fear is kids are in my future, <5yrs and I don't want to make an irresponsible decision now and pay for it later.

With your job now, imagine scheduling kids into that. Money ain't everything bud... I used to make really good money and hated life. Complained about the things you just did, plus 3 kids. I sold the business and moved to small town Ohio. I make $15.50 an hour now and I'm happier working this shitty shift than I was making big bucks.

If you can afford to make the move...do it! Those friends and family around you will still be doing the same things when you come home to visit. Trust me...15 years after I left home, we still go and drink at Jeffs house on Friday night. Same shit, different house and we all added kids, but it's the same shit. You ain't gonna miss much.

A bad side to this is family growing old...weddings, emergencies. These types of things suck when you want to give support and just can't.
 

hickslawns

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I think you have found your answer already. You have to be happy. Kids make life busier than one could imagine. If you have no life now, you will be blown away when you add kids to the mix.
 

bowhunter1023

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What ever you do, get established for when they come... Live within your means and enjoy your time together... Having nice houses nice cars and no time to enjoy them isn't a way to live...
Word. We all love our fathers and I'm sure yours is a wise man, but I wholeheartedly disagree with his advice. Do what makes you happy first, then worry about the money. Money does not equal happiness. Find fulfillment and you'll find happiness. Do that, and money will follow. Especially with your education.
 

Redhunter1012

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These days, people are so damned programmed to believe more money, more this, more that, more material stuff is what matters. Don't get me wrong, most of us like nicer stuff and some financial security, but the reason I love this site is more guys are de-programmed, and love to do the simpler things. It's more of a internal yearning to live life and enjoy experiences rather than being like Scrooge McDuck and backstroking in their vast fortunes. In reading your post, I can see you want more experiences that will make you happy rather than chasing the almighty buck. Go for it, Dude. Don't look back, and send us some kick ass pictures. At the very least, you can always come back.
 
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Curran

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Go. Run. Drive, Fly. Get the hell out of Ohio... and I love Ohio. However, from an outdoors perspective our state sucks. It really does. If I were doing things all over again I'd be doing what you and your fiance are doing. If you don't go, you'll always look back and wonder, "What if?" If you fail, so what. You took a chance and went for it. Not many people can say they've done that. In fact more people look back and wonder, "What if?"

Life is for living - Curran (feel free to quote that shit)
 

Gern186

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Go for it and don't look back. Many of us on this site know how life can be cut short. Follow your dreams and don't have any regrets. Don't live unhappy and regret that 10 years down the road. Make as many memories now as you can, especially before you have kids.
 

finelyshedded

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What ever you do, get established for when they come... Live within your means and enjoy your time together... Having nice houses nice cars and no time to enjoy them isn't a way to live...


^^^^^^^this^^^^^^^^

Lots of great advice by everyone! Nothing ventured nothing gained, my dad always said! Good luck with your decision!
 

Schu72

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There is no way I could be that far from my family. Heck I'm only 2 hours from my mom and dad now and feel like my kids are missing out on so much. When I was young we spent most weekends with grandma and grandpa, as well as, other extended family. My kids didn't get to experience that and it bothers me every day.
 
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