Heroin: it's gettin waaaaay outta hand!!!

Its out of control in Ashtabula too.
I have 1 P.O.S. that I'm having to monitor in prison so I know when he gets out...
How many lives are these fucking dealers going to be allow to destroy before they are dealt with absolutely ...
They should be tried as murders.

I just watched a clip that Amiri King did on it.



[video=youtube;2m0i4Pa2uVI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m0i4Pa2uVI[/video]

Shits out of control around here also. People are dying left and right. My own dumb ass cousin was on it, stole a bunch of shit, pawned a few of my late grandpa's guns, and did 3 years in prison for it. I haven't talked to him since he's been out and really don't care to. My aunt has custody of his 2 daughters because the worthless mom was on it also, did prison time in Marysville, and has since disappeared.

I've been watching a lot of drug documentaries lately and I don't think there is anyway to fix it. You bust one dealer, 10 more pop up. Easy money is too hard to pass up for some people. The people I feel bad for are the ones that get hooked on pain meds given by doctors. God forbid you try to actually fix the problem. Let's just mask it by using opiates. I understand pain meds have there place but they are prescribed if you go in with a hang nail. Other than those people i can't figure out what makes a person take that first hit. We are all educated now on how bad it is, yet people do it anyways. I think it really is a mental disorder.

I have a strong opinion on this. Some people may not like it. I say fugg em. If they want to get hooked on this shit and kill themselves, so be it. Population norming. The unfortunate side is the people it affects. Families. I couldn't agree more with Amiri. Addiction is not a disease, its a choice. Some people just want to have a reason to blame others for their problems instead of taking responsibility for their own actions. Instead of choosing to do drugs and become the black sheep in society, why don't you choose to benefit your community, or at least your family. Addicts are basically selfish assholes who only think of their needs.

This was just in the news........ 3050 people died from drug overdoses in Ohio in 2015. I was floored by the number.

dustinb80 said:

I have a strong opinion on this. Some people may not like it. I say fugg em. If they want to get hooked on this shit and kill themselves, so be it. Population norming. The unfortunate side is the people it affects. Families. I couldn't agree more with Amiri. Addiction is not a disease, its a choice. Some people just want to have a reason to blame others for their problems instead of taking responsibility for their own actions. Instead of choosing to do drugs and become the black sheep in society, why don't you choose to benefit your community, or at least your family. Addicts are basically selfish assholes who only think of their needs.

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I agree with this 100%.

Good video, CJD

Live in Greene County, the news has stopped reporting on over doses. TV 7, & 2, the radio stations ALL have stop reporting on overdoses. The worthless mayor of Dayton, has the cops by the jock straps letting it happen so as to appease BLM agitators.

Personally I have saved a life with CPR in Jan 2013 with the aid of a Defib device, a rare chance to be of service. Recently I took NARCAM training and have been issued two doses to keep with me. Pray to God I do not have to use them, junkies that come too after NARCAM are mostly out of control, in withdraw and Mad as hell as they vomit, freak out and piss themselves. The guy I saved with CPR is doing right by his new lease on life, not certain a junkie can, maybe 1 in 35 is what I heard.

Wmiller07 said:

I've been watching a lot of drug documentaries lately and I don't think there is anyway to fix it. You bust one dealer, 10 more pop up. Easy money is too hard to pass up for some people. The people I feel bad for are the ones that get hooked on pain meds given by doctors. God forbid you try to actually fix the problem. Let's just mask it by using opiates. I understand pain meds have there place but they are prescribed if you go in with a hang nail. Other than those people i can't figure out what makes a person take that first hit. We are all educated now on how bad it is, yet people do it anyways. I think it really is a mental disorder.

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You're absolutely right. Physicians are handing out opiates like they are candy. It's ridiculous. A few months ago I was in the ER for trauma to the neck... freak accident, but quickly recovered. Despite me insisting that I was in NO pain, they gave me a prescription for 20 oxycodone tablets. Never took them. This week, I had my four wisdom teeth extracted. Pain was pretty minimal, but they gave me a script for 20 hydrocodone pills. Ibuprofen worked just fine. They hand out these opiate pain meds like they're getting paid to so it I swear.

And the problem is, they affect different people in different ways. Myself, I don't care for them... they make me feel nauseous, so I don't take them. But other people really REALLY like the feeling they get from these meds, and are hooked on them right away. Then, when their prescription runs out, what do they do??? Well, unfortunately it's easier and sometimes cheaper to buy heroin than to find bootlegged pain pills. It's an epidemic that I don't see going away any time soon.

I'm with Dustin on this. Population control...if people are that weak that they can't say no, we don't need to repopulate the world with those type of people. We have enough idiots running around already. I'm sorry for the families it involves, I feel for those people. They are the strong people we need in today's world.

I have lost several kids from my hometown to this drug.....

The issue I see with Amiri's post is that he doesn't understand addiction. Saying addiction is a choice is like saying depression is a choice. It is a chemical unbalance in the brain. I can name 100s of kids that make dumb choices when they are younger, and are fortunate that they have the will power, drive, etc to get out of the ruts. Many of these people who are hooked on this drug are young kinds (18-25). They took it at a party or got hooked by pain killers like Chad said. I can promise you the last thing these kids want to be is hooked on heroin. However the drug is so strong that if you do it, you are damn near hooked (I never have just from what I have been told/read).

So if a young man/girl dies in a car crash, do you all say you don't feel bad cause they deserved it. I mean it was their choice to be driving to fast right?

I empathize with anyone who is an addict, I pray those who don't understand it, never have to deal with one close to their own heart.

Saying addiction is a choice is like saying depression is a choice.

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I totally disagree with this. I smoke and drink lots of coffee. I am a nicotine and caffeine junkie. In the mornings, you best not even try and speak to me unless it is to hand me a cigarette and a cup of mud first.

Do I have a disease? No. Do I have a chemical imbalance? No. I have an addiction. HOWEVER, it is something that I choose to do. Obviously, over and over again.

Blaming addiction to drugs on a disease downplays it.......as if it can't be helped.

at1010 said:

I have lost several kids from my hometown to this drug.....

The issue I see with Amiri's post is that he doesn't understand addiction. Saying addiction is a choice is like saying depression is a choice. It is a chemical unbalance in the brain. I can name 100s of kids that make dumb choices when they are younger, and are fortunate that they have the will power, drive, etc to get out of the ruts. Many of these people who are hooked on this drug are young kinds (18-25). They took it at a party or got hooked by pain killers like Chad said. I can promise you the last thing these kids want to be is hooked on heroin. However the drug is so strong that if you do it, you are damn near hooked (I never have just from what I have been told/read).

So if a young man/girl dies in a car crash, do you all say you don't feel bad cause they deserved it. I mean it was their choice to be driving to fast right?

I empathize with anyone who is an addict, I pray those who don't understand it, never have to deal with one close to their own heart.

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Absolutely correct. Would you be so cavalier with life if it was your son or daughter? It may be a choice at first but once they are physically dependent it is no longer a choice. It's very easy to say let them die until it's someone close to you.

I'm not sure if there is an answer to this. There are a lot of broken people out there and unfortunately they turn to drugs instead of God. In my personal life the only people I've seen make it out are ones that turn to God.

at1010 said:

I have lost several kids from my hometown to this drug.....

The issue I see with Amiri's post is that he doesn't understand addiction. Saying addiction is a choice is like saying depression is a choice. It is a chemical unbalance in the brain. I can name 100s of kids that make dumb choices when they are younger, and are fortunate that they have the will power, drive, etc to get out of the ruts. Many of these people who are hooked on this drug are young kinds (18-25). They took it at a party or got hooked by pain killers like Chad said. I can promise you the last thing these kids want to be is hooked on heroin. However the drug is so strong that if you do it, you are damn near hooked (I never have just from what I have been told/read).

So if a young man/girl dies in a car crash, do you all say you don't feel bad cause they deserved it. I mean it was their choice to be driving to fast right?

I empathize with anyone who is an addict, I pray those who don't understand it, never have to deal with one close to their own heart.

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I see and somewhat agree with you Al, we have the epidemic up here as well and it's affected some relatives and friends of friends.... It's hard to have empathy for a sustained period of time when they keep screwing up their lives as well as the lives of their loved ones... The kids they neglect, the pain they bring with their addictions and the rock bottom they have to hit before they get the help they need, that is if they live thru it to that point.... NARCAM is a double edged sword, it saves people who probably don't need saving as they'll eventually end up 6' under anyways.... It may sound heartless and uncaring but at some point you have to realize no matter the treatment the end result will be the same... Some will get over the addiction, sadly most won't...

Diane said:

I totally disagree with this. I smoke and drink lots of coffee. I am a nicotine and caffeine junkie. In the mornings, you best not even try and speak to me unless it is to hand me a cigarette and a cup of mud first.

Do I have a disease? No. Do I have a chemical imbalance? No. I have an addiction. HOWEVER, it is something that I choose to do. Obviously, over and over again.

Blaming addiction to drugs on a disease downplays it.......as if it can't be helped.

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I disagree. Like most diseases there is a cure. However the cure for this disease isn't easy. Watch some of the documentaries on this. A lot of these people have had awful lives. Girls pimped out by there parents, molested as young children, parents addicted and giving drugs to their children.

I have also lost a couple of close friends of mine to this problem. I slept much easier once they took that last high. When they were looking for that fix I lost more sleep, had more worries, and felt relieved after it was all done and over. For me, the struggle was much worse dealing/watching someone ruin their lives and the ones around them.

I don't Know anyone who wakes up first thing In the morning and says"hey today is a great day to try some crack". Something pushes them that way. I have a social theory but don't have time to type it all out

I have several friends who are ranking officers in police departments. I think they would agree with the following cuz we talk about this stuff all the time. The only cure from the epidemic itself has to start at the top. Anyone caught dealing it gets 10 years automatic, or Death by public execution. Make the penalty so harsh that people think long and hard about dealing. As far as the addiction, it has to come from the individual. I agree there are some people who would fall under the "disease" part. Those people, like said, have an Imbalance of some sort. But 90% of the people hooked on it are either full time shitheads who would huff paint if they didnt have heroine so readily available, and the rest or recreational users who viewed heroine the same as weed. Lets face it guys, this shit is at every party and its so common it doesnt have that "FUCK THAT" factor that it once did. I know quite a few people who are hooked that I would have never dreamed ever even smoking pot more than once, let alone doing heroine. And it's not a needle to start with. It's usually pills that are crushed and snorted, usually called "China". So the stigma of needle marks isnt even an early deterrent any more. I have so much more opinions on this but have to go. I will chime in later