Guys I'm going to test the water. I have a Ruger Black Hawk in .45LC/.45acp being delivered tomorrow. I'm thinking of placing my Kimber up for sale. One reason and one reason only! My grandson was in a couple of weeks ago and we shot up close to 80 rounds. I have tried for two weeks to break it down and clean it. With my ole weak hands I can not do it any more. I can and do take my Rugers apart and clean them easily. So if some one out there wants a dirty .45 I will send pictures. Because it is dirty I am putting the price to the buyers advantage. Asking $650. $600 if you pick up in Circleville. If interested, let me know.