Okay gents. I pose a question. I've always hunted out of ladder and hang on stands in the past but, this year I broke down and bought a climber. Now, logic would dictate putting the climber up higher as I like to have a decent vantage point (20-25') but in haste I put the climber into a tree with very little cover behind me and it seems the deer pegged me really quick. Has anyone had any luck with putting their climber in lower in the tree let's say like 8-10' off the ground but with pretty decent side and back cover? As a rule I always place my ladder stands where I'm not getting skylined but, they're all about 17' up with the cover at some spots, I may need to go much lower than Id like. I feel like if I'm that low on the tree, they'll be looking right at me. Idk. Let me know if you guys have ever had luck with it.