Well the DNR dicked up turtle trapping by putting the 13 inch min. size on them since the biggest i have ever caught was a couple that made it to 12 inches. Any of you guys trap turtles and do you have any luck finding any legal ones? Heres a pic of one that me and a buddy of mine caught up on the french river in canada back in the mid 90's that we put back in because we couldn't figure what to do with the big sumbitch lol. Felt like i was holding up a car battery